My experience regarding the trans agenda
- Louise Clarke
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My experience regarding the trans is one of living as a lesbian from the 80’s. I want share it for others to see how perceptions changed and are influenced by how they are perceived and constructed in the society in which we live.
As an 80s dyke there was a strong emphasis on appearance in order to be recognised by other dykes and to make for many a political statement. We were feminists and wanted recognition and our own space.
I was in London and we didn’t have much at all. There was a club called the lgbc in Holborn, that a disco for women on a Saturday night and a few clubs. But the divide then was between the S&m lesbian and one’s like me were called vanillas by them. Knowing what I know about Tavistock think agenda’s being created by them I believe that was their creation.
I was told how I was confusing because I wore my vest and tracksuit with my short hair. But also large diamonte earrings . I was told my arms were too skinny to wear vests but I still did ; until in the 90s I started weight training.
Meanwhile regarding trans matters I didn’t see hardly any. I recall one m-f in a club for women called the ace of clubs, in Mayfair and they passed as a very attractive woman. There was also a woman who worked on the bar who I once remarked on the size of her arms, for I had to work hard to get any results . She told me that she didn’t work out but was born with male and female chromosomes I think. And so didn’t need to work out.
Women then could appear as male as they liked but didn’t then believe they were trans. I recall having a friend who grew up in Yorkshire and pretended to be a boy, so she could date another girl and she used the toilet handle in her knickers to fool her. But the maleness was just pretend and once she hit London she was accepted by the lesbians so no more toilet handles. Another woman I met was from Singapore, there lesbians were not recognised, not a concept. Therefore growing up attracted to women she came to England with the intention of having a sex change, but again once she discovered the lesbian scene she no longer desired a sex change.
A few women I knew were made to have electric shocks as aversion therapy but it didn’t work.
As a child I was a Tom boy enjoying cars, playing football but also dolls. I didn’t like wearing dresses but wore them until I got a pair of tracksuits bottoms and then I no longer wore dresses.
People treat you in accordance to how you dress. Try it. Wearing a dress for me said to others silly girl, easy to approach, soft etc . Trousers said I am not a silly girl, soft and sweet. But also then made a statement that I may be a dyke. Especially if our hair was short and I wore no make up , this was in the 80s. Fashion changed and straight girls started having short hair to make a statement about being a strong woman. A feminist, not having blow in the wind hair.
Plus some gay women wanted to wear makeup and have long hair. Also not all races/ cultures welcome gay members in the family, so had to hide it and dress in a stereotypical way.
Over the years things have changed. Now it’s gone blurred. Great some say. But for me as a 100% lesbian , now I don’t have hardly anywhere safe to go. I can’t display to men I am not available for their wife’s have short hair too.
Then ‘ trans movement’ came along, seemingly out of nowhere. I noticed the arrival of in maybe 2009/10 era.
My friend who had been a gay man for years suddenly decided to transition. I couldn’t comprehend why. He had never said he felt like a woman and had lived about 40 years gay, then he wanted to change and everywhere seemed to be trans encouraging. For me Tavistock came straight to my mind.
They are usually behind social engineering. Previously dividing the lesbian community with the S&m verses the ‘ vanillas’ . I recently learnt that it is a Jesuit agenda and they run the education system to feed their agendas through.
The movement seemed to take the ruling hand on how we all should think.
For me I have no issues with trans people but I am considered wrong within the gay community for not believing that trans male to female are not women. I don’t even mind them coming into our women only space if that’s what they truly feel they are, (female). But what has occurred is that venues that once were considered safe space for lesbians, have become understandably considered safe spaces for trans people. But in addition to this the politics has become that if I don’t have the same thinking; which I don’t, I am not welcome in those venues and I am labelled a turf or something like that. Which is meant to be a insult on me.
I also went to a club prior to Covid which was women only karaoke. There I met a trans male to female who I chatted with, they worked at the university. I told them how I was a tomboy growing up and did like the idea of being a boy/ man during my childhood and teens but not really because I wanted to be a guy but because of how I was treated as a girl/ woman. I didn’t like being objectified nor treated like I was dumb. I didn’t like my breast because once I had them boys treated me differently. As I said I became an object to them. The trans I spoke with insisted that I was trans therefore as I fitted the profile but I know I am glad I never thought to become trans, yes it wasn’t really an option when I was younger but in truth I am glad it wasn’t. I see now with maturity that there is nothing wrong with being a woman, but society needs to give more respect to us. Changing sex would not have solved any of my problems ; only isolated me more. I lived my life as a lesbian and enjoyed the culture I experienced with other lesbians. I feel sad that today many lesbians will not have the same safe spaces I had, not know how a woman only space felt. Today we are expected to just fit in and if we have a different opinion to the Tavistock think tank rhetoric shut up.
I am glad discussions have started with this topic for they are long overdue. It’s like we have been told how to think as lesbians and other gay + people. I don’t respond well to being told what I can and cannot say, so I say this here in hope that young people will learn of how things were for lesbians not so long ago. I know I haven’t written much but hope I inspire others to share their thoughts and experiences too. May women get some safe space again where they can be and say what they think and feel. Silence equals death. So speak whilst you can.
( the header images are one of myself as a child, I am the one in the centre and the other is the rainbow flag that is originally the girl freemason flag, introduced and used for the gay community without awareness since about 1990s )